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[split] My opinion about Buildism - Counterclockwork - 07-31-2011
Not to insult or offend, but why is there so much trafficing from ROBLOX players coming here more than anything? There's images of it in the skins, there's places, the whole set-up is almost exactly like ROBLOX. I don't mean to be "THAT GUY" but, this is about the 4th site I've joined like this that didn't work out later on and shut-down.
All in all I'd like to help you actually though, I like taking part in these things whether I've got my own second on thoughts on still. I've been training in the Multi-Media Design field for a few years now, and I think I could offier a lot more high-quality help.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Login - 07-31-2011
(07-31-2011, 08:12 PM)Counterclockwork Wrote: Not to insult or offend, but why is there so much trafficing from ROBLOX players coming here more than anything? There's images of it in the skins, there's places, the whole set-up is almost exactly like ROBLOX. I don't mean to be "THAT GUY" but, this is about the 4th site I've joined like this that didn't work out later on and shut-down.
All in all I'd like to help you actually though, I like taking part in these things whether I've got my own second on thoughts on still. I've been training in the Multi-Media Design field for a few years now, and I think I could offier a lot more high-quality help.
Most games set-up by ROBLOX only lasted 2 months. This has lasted 8 months. You can't judge us by what the community does, you can judge us about what the site is about.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Counterclockwork - 07-31-2011
(07-31-2011, 08:13 PM)Login Wrote:(07-31-2011, 08:12 PM)Counterclockwork Wrote: Not to insult or offend, but why is there so much trafficing from ROBLOX players coming here more than anything? There's images of it in the skins, there's places, the whole set-up is almost exactly like ROBLOX. I don't mean to be "THAT GUY" but, this is about the 4th site I've joined like this that didn't work out later on and shut-down.
All in all I'd like to help you actually though, I like taking part in these things whether I've got my own second on thoughts on still. I've been training in the Multi-Media Design field for a few years now, and I think I could offier a lot more high-quality help.
Most games set-up by ROBLOX only lasted 2 months. This has lasted 8 months. You can't judge us by what the community does, you can judge us about what the site is about.
I'm not judging by what the community does, I don't care about what they do personally when judging this site. I'm only saying, there are so many qualities and factors that I'm finding currently that are ROBLOX or Minecraft related that were basically taken. Its not a pretty image for you guys, hardly original. The interactive game, despite myself not being able to load it, is the biggest thing you have going here right now.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Blandflakes - 07-31-2011
(07-31-2011, 08:20 PM)Counterclockwork Wrote:(07-31-2011, 08:13 PM)Login Wrote:(07-31-2011, 08:12 PM)Counterclockwork Wrote: Not to insult or offend, but why is there so much trafficing from ROBLOX players coming here more than anything? There's images of it in the skins, there's places, the whole set-up is almost exactly like ROBLOX. I don't mean to be "THAT GUY" but, this is about the 4th site I've joined like this that didn't work out later on and shut-down.
All in all I'd like to help you actually though, I like taking part in these things whether I've got my own second on thoughts on still. I've been training in the Multi-Media Design field for a few years now, and I think I could offier a lot more high-quality help.
Most games set-up by ROBLOX only lasted 2 months. This has lasted 8 months. You can't judge us by what the community does, you can judge us about what the site is about.
I'm not judging by what the community does, I don't care about what they do personally when judging this site. I'm only saying, there are so many qualities and factors that I'm finding currently that are ROBLOX or Minecraft related that were basically taken. Its not a pretty image for you guys, hardly original. The interactive game, despite myself not being able to load it, is the biggest thing you have going here right now.
Would you like to post what you think we "took" from other sites? I know a lot of games that use blockish type avatars and have skins/items
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Ming-Yan - 07-31-2011
No game is original anymore.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Login - 07-31-2011
Nobody makes things from complete imagination. That's a common misconception. You have to get inspired. You see something good, for example, from minecraft. You'll definitely want the idea to twist it and make it even better. Minecraft got the inspiration from playing a game. And that game was inspired because of a survival topic and things that do happen.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Ming-Yan - 07-31-2011
ROBLOX is a direct copy of Lego toys...
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Fat_Sacks - 07-31-2011
Minecraft is based on Infiniminer. I think that's what it's called.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Jacob__mybb_import1 - 07-31-2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua-scripted_video_games
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/Forums/Default.aspx
http://www.blockland.us/
http://www.markdryden.co.uk/vs2003.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Blender3D_ParentChildHierarchy.png
Do any of those links look familiar?
I know that this isn't completely original, but hardly any games are these days, and roblox is no exception.
RE: Ask the Staff Thread - Counterclockwork - 07-31-2011
(07-31-2011, 08:23 PM)Ming-Yan Wrote: No game is original anymore.
Bullcrap.
(07-31-2011, 08:26 PM)Login Wrote: Nobody makes things from complete imagination. That's a common misconception. You have to get inspired. You see something good, for example, from minecraft. You'll definitely want the idea to twist it and make it even better. Minecraft got the inspiration from playing a game. And that game was inspired because of a survival topic and things that do happen.
Bullcrap.
That's the most stubborn minded thing I've heard in a while. Do you know how easy it would be to create an entirely new game that was nothing like any other? Its very easy, incredibly. Though saying that because most games created through inspiration of another is all the reason for you do to the same, is rediculous. e.g "Oh hey, I like ROBLOX. So I'll make the same exact thing in my inspiration."
Its not like you aren't allowed to, this site is obviously here for a reason. Though regardless of what you didn't interfere with to exist copyright wise, the fact is that you're putting yourself in the red from the beginning. Being inspired is one thing, but starting a poor-quality building game that is almost exactly the same when compared to other popular ones is just stupid. Its like if I tried making a game to top World of Warcraft because I was inspired by it. I've not only got to compete with it, but put in the effort which will more than likely be self-defeating.
LIST OF THINGS:
Domino Crown in the same exact Format as the ROBLOX one. If you were to ever pass that as an original making, you're an idiot.
Domino Crown [2].
Though that is only a test, it still leaves large evidence behind about the ROBLOX ideals being taken.
Oh look, a 2008 guest. Sure I'm assuming it was a joke, but that only leaves once again more reason to question the rest of the website's originallity with their 'ideas'.
Oh wow, the void star with the old 2006 ROBLOX default character coloring format.
You script LUA, just like ROBLOX. In a game that works and has already had remade games, from ROBLOX in it.
Point being, there tons of things that are ROBLOX related in the skins section. Along with a few obvious Minecraft ones you could put aside as just a joke or for fun. Though regardless it only makes a person even more suspicious of the originallity of the site yet again, after seeing the randomized text in the upper right. The same exact thing that Minecraft does. - It doesn't matter who did it before, but the popularity is the key. If there's a game with 20,000,000 users, and you claim these ideas existed before them
You all can try and take a game's outline and idea, then rename it but not many people are going to fall for it and believe it was really your idea from the start. When I see Buildism everywhere on the site, I'm seeing ROBLOX. Did ROBLOX take their general idea from Legos? Yes, but they never published it as a free-online multi-player game where you can pretty much do anything. Lego-games in 2004, and old days when they were developing ROBLOX were hardly existant in-fact. Near that time it transitioned from RL legos, to flash games, to PS2 games, etc.
You can moan and groan all you want because of the effort you're putting in, but this will be nothing more than an independant project. If it were to ever get popular, skeptists would shoot you down in an instant. If this EVER had the popularity of Minecraft, ROBLOX, Steam, actually successful games. The majority of the population would shoot you down instantly, because its OBVIOUS that these ideas were already used, not only in ROBLOX, but many places and games.
--I'm only saying all of this because BlandFlakes provoked me to. Like I said, I want to help you guys regardless of my second thoughts.